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Dan Warner's Wild Ride: He's Been Up and Down and Over and Out But Know One Thing - He's Still in the Race (and He Plans to Win)
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By Ron Jackson 

Fabulous.com is Born

"I ran across a domain that was for sale on Sedo.com -“Fabulous.com," Warner recalled. "I liked it for a brand. For what I didn’t know but when I showed it to Dean he had me buy it without negotiating for the $10,000 asking price." That purchase paid great dividends for DBS and continues to do so to this day. But at the same time the new Fabulous.com was being born a different birth commanded Warner's attention.

"We were just launching our first iteration of products for DBS and times were very busy when my wife gave birth to our first child, Ella," Warner said. "Unfortunately Ella had major complications and was near death in the hospital. Her lungs hadn’t fully developed yet. After an emergency hospital transfer and several weeks of treatment she recovered. I was very close to Ella at the time and we have had a special bond every since. It is very easy to be engulfed by work but quality of life and family is what really matters"

Back at work, "DBS floated in the first year after I joined through a reverse takeover," Warner said. "Richard and I tried to “corporatize” the company. We put in management systems, incentives for sales and I benchmarked everyone in the company with a system called “brainbench.com” (a hugely unpopular move)."

Warner had to make some tough 
decisions during the Fabulous years.

To complicate matters, as always seems to happen in life, another storm appeared on the horizon. "The Internet had another mini bubble burst in actual revenue," Warner said. "This is December 2002 and the company was heading into the red in a hurry. Staff needed to be cut immediately, unprofitable products needed to be cut, everything needed to be more efficient. So we did."

"The benchmarking we had done on the staff had identified the most skilled programmers and designers. That combined with an exhaustive review created the basis to cut the fat out of the system. Marginal and unprofitable products that had been sacred cows were slaughtered, popular but unskilled staff were let go - I even put myself up for potential termination based solely on my salary (luckily they kept me)," Warner said.

"The outcome of this process was amazing. The staff which had poor skills had been causing product and system issues which took up the good programmer's and designer's time. Training 

and retraining the poor ones had been taking up all the productivity of the better developers. As soon as the bottom half of the programmers and designers were gone the whole development process quadrupled in productivity with better quality of production," Warned noted.

"Culling the products had a similar effect. We focused on the profitable production and pet projects were out. Finally we had the production based on potential for revenue instead of trying to justify why products had been created in the first place. In fact, we were well on our way to creating a single synergistic product with Fabulous.com. The product suite included: Fabulous.com (Domain Registrar), Fabulous.com (Parking Company), Roar.com (PPC Directory), PageSeeker.com (Paid Search Engine) and DarkBlue.com (CPA Network)."

"In 2002 we had already produced an internal product called the Dynamic Generator. This was an unpopular product initially as it replaced humans by dynamically creating websites using search listings, search links, images, open source information, CPA products, news, dictionaries, etc.  This product was developing dynamic websites long before the rest of the market 

attempted it. The outcome of this system was fundamental to DBS success in the early years when search engines still ranked parking pages well in their organic search. Without the added volume the company would have had difficulty surviving," Warner said.  

"We also realized that the key to long term profitability and stability was to own the traffic internally," Warner continued. "Domain Active, the internal holding company for domains, began buying domains. We created a market intelligence engine that collected and collated all the data we could find to “guess” the traffic value of domains that either existed or hadn’t been registered."

"As a public company, we created a white list system that could help determine if domains that might have traffic and hadn’t been purchased yet had potential trademark issues 

associated with them. Once identified, Domain Active domains were purchased by hand, prioritized by potential value. Over the years 600,000 domains were purchased this way making DBS the largest domain portfolio owner by volume of domains."

Dan's daughters Sophie and Ella

In an interesting side note, Warner added, "In the following years I went on as Chief Strategy Officer to create relationships with Google and Yahoo for DBS. This included a deal which was one of only two in the world at the time which was non-exclusive between the two providers. We could send traffic to either as we saw fit.  Eventually Yahoo threatened to cancel the contract and DBS moved exclusively to Google for the following years."

In 2006, after years of ups, downs and all arounds, Warner was finally enjoying an ongoing hot streak, both in the office and at home. "Another joy was added to my life when Sophie, my youngest daughter, was born.  This time there were no complications – life was good!," Warner declared.

In 2008 Warner had another new baby to boast about - this one birthed by DBS. "We broke out of the crowd again when we introduced the Domain Distribution Network (DDN)," Warner said. "The DDN was based on a paper I wrote and released to the domain community in October 2008. This paper was based on analyzing the value chain of aftermarket domain sales and made recommendations for change.   

After discussing the paper with the major registrars they requested that we build the system that I had proposed, and that they would support it. The DDN was launched about five months later and went on to contribute a significant liquidation mechanism for aftermarket domains.  It provides real time stocking, distribution, transfer, and settlement of domains between any registrar listed on the network. More importantly to DBS it added millions in profit to the bottom line by selling its Domain Active domains more efficiently," Warner said.

He is on the road a lot but  Brisbane, Australia (above)
is still the place where Warner makes his home.

2008 had other highlights for Warner too. "My family managed to build a house of our own design, I finished my MBA program with honors (of little value at this point) and I made six overseas trips that year. The family was getting a bit grumpy!" Warner said.

Of course 2008 will go down in history for another reason - one of the biggest recessions in history was starting to take a big bite out of just about everyone's business. "The global financial crisis is here," Warner observed, "and Google is clawing back revenue share in the new contracts. DBS is one in a long line of companies, but  

we are the first company to be reassessed. The margin that was eliminated had been used for research and development which no longer existed.  Costs are too high. More staff and product costs have to go."

Another huge change, one even closer to home, was awaiting Warner in the summer of 2009. "After significant discussions with the board of DBS regarding the path forward for the company we mutually agreed that my strengths in growth and innovation were not going to be the core of the DBS strategy going forward, and they appointed the CFO to the role of CEO.  My seven year stint with developing Fabulous.com and Dark Blue Sea from a start-up was over."

That however was not the end of the Dan Warner story - it was just still another new beginning. "It was time again for a fresh start," Warner said. "I had an interest in open source development for years. The web solutions that were being produced by Joomla and Drupal were very exciting.  I was also ready to run my own company again.  So I created an open source web development company and merged it with an existing traditional advertising company a friend of mine had owned for 22 years. The result is Interweaving.com."  

"Interweaving has been a phenomenal company experience.  We have been perfecting a manufacturing style process that produces websites for less than $5,000 which would have cost $20,000 or more just a few years ago. It is based on an open source content management system Joomla, and a system of 

reuse that accelerates production times. What I liked most about the company was that I was able to interact with real small and medium businesses and successfully launch or re-launch them online. It combines business strategy and internet knowledge to make a real difference and provide great value," Warner said.

"We got off to a great start and within a few months we were producing around five websites per week. Revenue grew to around $80,000 per month. In less than six months we had built a business with more than $1 million in annualized revenue. However, the business also required that I work 16 hours per day and stress in the early stages was unbelievable. I inherited many of our company staff who were traditionally trained in advertising - not as web developers. We were trying to keep our costs down, so equipment was scarce and we didn’t want to hire dedicated staff until we could guarantee a viable business. Almost through sheer willpower we made it a success. Now the business has several dedicated web staff and processes continually improve and gain efficiency," Warner said.

"Interweaving was and is still a start-up. It needs tender loving care, expertise, and experience. It was heavily dependent on my own expertise in business strategy and the internet but luckily, I had taken on a partner with it from the beginning so that should I move on to my more global 

ventures he could run it. Last November, when Directi came along and made me an offer I couldn’t refuse to run DomainAdvertising.com I had a means to have my cake and eat it too. My partner runs the operations of the business and I remain the Chairman and provide strategic advice."

Anyone who has been in the domain business for any length of time knows that it has a certain addictive quality to it. It is an exciting place to be, there are a lot of great people to interact with and domains are at the heart of the biggest shift in the history of communications as traditional media outlets move to the Internet. Though, with Interweaving, he now had a company of his own again, Warner couldn't resist the siren call from the domain industry.

"I’ve had the benefit of knowing most of the people at the top of the domain industry.  Knowledgeable guys with sharp noses for following the money. I’m not going to name drop, but you all know who you are. I missed you the most when I stepped outside the domain channel for those six months (a much needed break). Well, I’m back and life continues to be interesting – I guess I’m not dead yet!," Warner laughed.

There were practical reasons as well. "I felt that I had a lot of specialist skills and knowledge I was really wasting. Cash flow of Interweaving and payback on its start-up costs still weighed on me. The business was just beginning to spin off cash. I was cognizant that as a start-up it still represented significant risk as a venture – Internet markets can change overnight."

"Divyank Turakhia, the co-founder of Directi (with his brother Bhavin), gave me a call to talk about what I was doing. We had talked over the years of my potential involvement at some point with Directi, but I had previously been dedicated to Fabulous until it had run its course - being loyal to the cause and company that I had helped create. I had a number of offers from other domain companies in my break from the industry, but nothing had felt right, or interested me enough to break away from Interweaving," Warned added.

"Divyank had a straight forward and compelling offer including, to name just a few things, complete autonomy, a team of 50 veteran domain professionals, access to over 500 additional human resources on an as need basis, strong capital form Directi and the Ashmore Group and I could run the entire company from an executive office in Australia.

As a new company of Directi, a lot of people are not yet familiar with DomainAdvertising.com, a new parking and traffic monetization service 

Directi Co-Founder Divyank Turakhia

that describes itself as being "a radically innovative traffic monetization program that works hard at delivering the last mile of revenue and conversions, bringing sustainable value to domain publishers and advertisers."

I asked Warner to elaborate on that and explain why Domain Advertising was created to compete in a space that has seen huge revenue declines over the past couple of years. "We have entered an established market which has slowed in development," Warner agreed. "It’s like the ice age has come and everyone is huddling into little balls hoping to maintain the heat in their internal core. This is a reasonable behavior as costs have created a very cool environment."

"What we are going to do is create value faster than anyone else. We can do this because our cost benefit ratio is significantly higher than any other provider in the industry. I would say that the primary driver will be that we have the benefit of such a vast array of talent and experience at a fraction of the cost of western cultures (most of Domain Advertising's staff is based in Mumbai, India) - with little opportunity for competitors to replicate our position. We have an army of innovators.

A mouth watering chocolate template from Domain Advertising.com's landing page collection. 
Other DA templates and info on their parking platform are in this .pdf brochure.

Warner added, "Domain advertising and the industry will reach a tipping point.  Domain owners should send their traffic to the best provider for every individual domain. Providers win traffic by being able to provide one cent more than the other available providers at any given time for any given domain.  Cutting costs, as most domain channel providers have done in recent years, only allows them to be able to afford giving the domain owner that extra cent for a little longer. In the long run their lack of innovation and cost cutting will bring them to a point where there is no longer a cent to give. Then they no longer have a reason to exist."

"We are happy to compete on revenue on a domain by domain basis," Warner continued. "We will stand toe to toe with the competition and try to out-innovate them to fight for your traffic. In the nature of diverse systems we won’t be the best solution for every domain name, but we are confident that a strong share of the market will fall to us."

An interesting factoid - Warner's formidable Army is as young as they are talented. Believe it or not, of the 600 people at Directi, Warner is the oldest despite being just 43 years old himself.

In closing Warner shared this final observation with us.  "Richard Moore once told me, “You’re a weird guy, but that’s OK as this is a weird industry." I didn’t miss the irony in his comments. In an age where the Internet has redistributed wealth to Internet entrepreneurs at an astonishing rate (making them 40% of all millionaires) – It seems that the geeks may inherit the earth after all."

Warner allowing his head to be shaved at T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Down Under in Nov. 2008
to raise money for cancer research.

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